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Old 11-21-2007, 12:03 PM
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Mike Shula's Head Coaching Record

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School Year W L Pct. Notes
Alabama 2003 4 9 .308
Alabama 2004 6 6 .500 Music City Bowl (Loss)
Alabama 2005 10 2 .833 Cotton Bowl (Win)
Alabama 2006 6 6 .500 Independence Bowl (loss under interim coach)
Total 4 26 23 .531
He has a 26-23 record in a span of 4 years at Alabama before he gets fired.
Thats not exactly a great coach.

If he had a 4-9 record his first year here, you guys would want to fire HIM next..

Notice the fact that even HE goes 6-6 after his only good year there.
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If Mike Shula took a BCS bowl winner from a year before and turned them into a 4-9 team.........you betcha!
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If Mike Shula took a BCS bowl winner from a year before and turned them into a 4-9 team.........you betcha!
You missed the point of the last sentence here it is for you again.

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Notice the fact that even HE goes 6-6 after his only good year there.
He went 6-6 after going 10-2 and got fired!!

So your saying the Louisville football program is just as good as the Alabama football program??
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:21 PM
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Oh excuse me, I forgot how dense you are. I dont give a shit what Shula did at Alabama. Swap out Kragthorpe for Shula this year and I'd still want his ass to go.
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Most successful coaches were NOT good players. And the secretary comment? Come on. Freddy
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Who besides the players get a Super Bowl ring?

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The NFL will pay up to $5,000 per ring and will buy rings for 150 members of the organization. After the players, coaches, front office personnel, trainers, the general manager and the owner, maybe even the cheerleaders will get a ring. After the players, coaches, trainers and management get their rings, who gets the other rings is left up to the team's management.
Ah hum....and you were saying CardinalJunky?

So yes a secretary could carry the same credibility as career clipboard carrier Jason Garrett with 3 SB rings on her hand but not the same credibility as Troy Aikman.

We know she filled out far more paper work than garrett and his clipboard and I'd say she earned her salary more than Garrett did.

Come on, if your talking NFL coaches I'd bet well over half were very good football players in either college or pro.

Joe Whitt Jr was a reciever at Auburn but plaugued by injuries, he was a very good DB coach at U of L and made it to the NFL as a coach.

Because he wasnt a NFL player and his college career was cut shhort I agree that he did go on to make an excellent young coach.

With some more experience I'd love to see him come back to Louisville as a head coach one day.

Now if your talking college coaches there are far too many for me to research but I'd be inclined to say they wouldnt be in coaching if they werent football players to begin with.

The only exception I could think of would be Charlie Wies of Notre Dame, never played any football as far as I know.

As far as the theory that a super bowl rings giving a coach instant credibility.......

Dan Marino is far more credible than Jason Garrett as a player although Garrett has 3 rings and Marino has none. Would you rather have Garrett or Marino teaching your kid the mechanics and nuiances of playing QB.

Marino chose the booth because he did it all on the field, Garrett chose the sidelines where he spent his pro career.

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Come on Ivy league football?

Garrett is obviously smart, right off the top a good atribute for a coach but the Ivy League isnt known as an NFL player factory now is it?

The Ivy League player of the year at Princeton

He was a QB coach in Maimi and the OC for Dallas not even a full season yet.

No way would I say that qualifies Garrett as a Head Coach candidate on any level except maybe HS. Garrett needs more experience as a coach before I think he gets a shot at Head Coach anywhere.

So where does the credibility come in from having super bowl rings?

Just owning one or earning one on the field?

Then again the old saying goes "those who can, do.....those who cant, coach"
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Also, his first year at Alabama is TOTALLY different than Krags at Louisville. Two things:

1)Alabama was on PROBATION!!!

2) They didnt come off a BCS bowl year.

I dont think anybody was expecting for alabama to be that good that year.
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I'd much rather have a coach come in that COACHED a team to a championship than PLAYED a team to a championship. Just because a guy can play that doesn't mean he can coach, and just because a guy can't play doesn't mean he can't coach. I'd say the majority of coaches were players because of their interest in the game.
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I don't know what to say Bling.....I guess we should hire the Cowboys secreatary...in theory of course.

Again, most stars don't turn out to be good coaches (and I'm talking head coaches, managers, etc). Freddy
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I don't know what to say Bling.....I guess we should hire the Cowboys secreatary...in theory of course.

Again, most stars don't turn out to be good coaches (and I'm talking head coaches, managers, etc). Freddy
I wouldnt be opposed to hiring her, as a secretary of course

I hope she's hot, any chance she moved on from a Cowboys cheerleader to the front office?

I mentioned this on here before but I listened to Mike Shula and Mike Leach of Texas Tech speak at the Nike coach of the year clinic at the Galt House.

Mike Shula was very impressive. You could tell that he had a vast knowledge of football, offenses and specifically coaching QB's. He was professional and enthusiastic, although most of the coaches had already left and went back to their rooms or the hospatality rooms to get drunk, he didnt care how many people were in that room.

For whatever reason he wasnt successful at Alabama, inheriting a program on probation, having a down year after a good year, I still thing he's a good experienced coach who would help the Louisville program.

I like the idea of Nord as a coach too.

He started out here as a player at St. X & Louisville and he has since gotten experience around the country, twice hooking up with Howard since leaving Louisville, at Oklohoma and FAU and as a head coach.

Someone with ties to the area and a nice coaching resume would be a good choice.

I wish Joe Whitt Jr had about 5 more years of coaching experience. I can see him making a very good head coach one day.
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:42 PM
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this is all very interesting. and irrelevent.
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