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We likely would have beaten UK, Syracuse, UConn, and Utah. I think we underestimate how great Petrino was at preparation. He was the master. There is no way we would have been ill prepared to take on Syracuse and Utah. Our offense would not be sputtering the way it is right now. We do not take advantage of our opponents weakness. We run the same plays in the same way every game. With the talent and experience we have there is no excuse for not tailoring game plans to the opposition. Bling, I know we kid each other about not agreeing (at all!  ), but this is one time where I can't believe you believe we wouldn't be better. Now, there is no for sure way to know, but after watching Petrino work for a few years, it's obvious the guy is a winner. Freddy
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Petrino would have beaten WVU this year too. As bad the eers played with that many turnovers, I don't think it would have been close either. Damn Stubbs and his inept offense.
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It's not hard to believe Petrino could have won some of those games because I believe we were only a couple of plays from winning the Syracuese & UCONN games with Kragthorpe. It's also possible we may have lost other games that were close. Giving Louisville a 9-win season if Petrino is coach in 2007, I just dont see it. The fair catch TD against Uconn could have made a difference and we gave up a couple long TD passes to the Cuse only because we got beat deep. Getting beat deep from a player out of position or biting up also happened against UK for the game winner too, so that happened in multiple games. Utah just manhandled Louisville, they ran it down our throats and dared us to stop them with their #2 running back. Really I dont see how Petrino could have stopped or changed the Utah game with the defensive personell we had. Our d-line & LB's couldnt stop Utah's run game.
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And Petrino, specifically through Wolthausen, was a mastermind at KNOWING what the opposing offense was going to run at you from their formations. I am convinced that neither Cassity nor Krag have this figured out most times. It's WHY Utah can run it down our throats and WHY UK and Syracuse can beat us deep almost as if we didn't have safeties on the field.
It also helps when your defensive coaches get a play formation/unit on the field before the opposing offense is lining up the snap.
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Petrino ate that stuff up. He was all business reviewing teams, watching video and he did it relentlessly.
Krag? Who knows? He doesn't tell much except that it's all on him.
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If you are getting beat deep because a guy bites on a play fake or bites on a short route or is just in the wrong place and not providing the deep help that's not coaching, that's the players. Cover 2 is two players playing deep halves, cover 3 is deep thirds. That means no one behind you in your half or third of the field. DB's play the pass first, run second, they have to let the LB's cover the short passes. If they were in man coverage of course means you suck if they can get that far behind you. Coaches can tell players how to play in that defense but if the players dont execute that and you dont have a player ready to step in to replace them if they dont, what can the coach do? Recruit better players for next year. The defensive line putting pressure on the QB helps the defense backs also. Dumervil in 2005 and Amobi in 2006 gave our defense that kind of pressure on the QB, we lacked that kind of player on the defensive line who showed up every game. We lacked the defensive backs who could cover deep and stay in their coverage, not bite on a pump fake, not bite on the QB's eyes on a short route and toss it up deep, our LB's were Preston Smith 219, Lamar Myles 205 and Malik Jackson listed at 230, which I find hard to believe. Brohm at 6'4" 228 is bigger than our LB's You have to have a d-line that occupies a blocker and let a LB fill. Our LB's were the size of DB's. I bet there is no starting LB in the big 10 under 230lbs. We need quicker d-line, bigger LB's and smarter DB's. Smaller, quicker LB's is how DII defenses recruit.
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It's obvious to me that we're just seeing a different game, bling. I see LB's who are specifically told to stay home and make tackles in the open field, you see poor talent. I see D-linemen who are not rushing the QB, but rather trying to just hold the line of scrimmage... you see poor talent. I hear Kragthrope saying stupid stuff about playing a "6-deep", you see poor talent.
It's probably in the best interests of our time and fingers to just agree to disagree... the talent isn't AS good as the past two seasons, but it doesn't suck either.
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A linebackers 1st step is towards the line no matter if it's a run or a pass you attack the line of scrimmage. Even on a pass you take a jab step towards the line before getting into your drop. That's Linebacker 101 on every level of football. There is no way in hell our LB's were told to stay home and make tackles in the open field. Did you mean to say they were told to play their gap responsibility 1st, which is at the line of scrimmage not 8 yards deep? Stay at home and tackle in the open field is not at the line of scrimmage. That sound to me like letting the ball carrier come to you, there's NO WAY IN HELL any college level coach told a LB to play the position that way. You have to give me a link, show me that in print and prove it to me. I'll carry a sign in protest for Kragthorpe and staff to get out of town if they are coaching the LB position that way. I dont care how poor you believe the coaching to be there is no way a DI college coach is telling the linebackers not to attack the line of scrimmage on a run play. Also I never said our LB's had poor talent, I said they are undersized. You can't effectively have a 205, 210,215 pound LB taking on the blocks of 300lb lineman and think they will play off that block and stop the run. Quote:
Show me in print somewhere that the Louisville coaches told the d-line to "hold the line" and not rush the QB. Also I said the same thing, the d-line didnt apply pressure on the QB well. I also said we didnt have a player who we knew was going to get sacks on a regular basis as part of their game. Is that poor talent, poor technique, lack of size, result of poor coaching? Maybe a little bit of all of those reasons but not playing to potential is a big part of it. I definetly see lack of talent as part of it, maybe those guys can still develop, that's what college is about but they didnt have it this year. Peanut for one was highly recruited as a DE and most DE's speed rushing off the end get sacks, Peanut got his first sack of the year against Cincy. Quote:
Just like I said UK was better than many Louisville fans would admit early in the season, UCONN & USF for example also improved while the Cards dropped a notch from 2006. Louisville is just one of many schools this year for example like Michigan, who lost games they shouldnt have by most expectations. Cal lost 4 games this year, Alabama just lost to Louisiana-Monroe I could give a dozen more examples, this was a topsy-turvy season in college football, Louisville took a couple extra hits we didnt see coming. What I see on here was a lot of posters making Kragthorpe the scapegoat for all of Louisville's problems and losses. The players share in that responsibility of the product on the field and while I was trying to point that out I never said our talent sucked.
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