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06-23-2008, 08:32 AM
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DT James McKinley dismissed
Sorry that's McKinney not McKinley.
He was the DT from Central HS who was asked to leave a football game because he was bad-mouthing Louisville to the other recruits and telling them he was going to Michigan. Well he lasted on season at Michigan and then transferred to Louisville where he didn't even last one season at Louisville because he flunked out. Quote:
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06-23-2008, 09:22 AM
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Awesome!
At what point does this stop to be a player issue and start to become an issue of coaches not keeping tabs on studies, behavior, and other off-field activities?
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06-23-2008, 01:31 PM
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Academics will always be a player issue 1st and coaches issue 2nd.
Wouldn't you say ultimately the player is responsible for his/her own grades? Character was academically ineligible, is that really Pitino's fault? Knowing Character and his history I would assume most would say not Pitino's fault. I'm sure all the athletes have opportunities for study hall and access to tutors, it still takes work on the student/athletes behalf to keep up. McKinney showed he was a moron when he bad mouthed Louisville to other recruits while on a recruiting trip to Louisville, it doesn't suprise me he has now flunked out. Just like after all of Characters dicipline problems it doesn't suprise me he had eligibility problems. Some DII school would love to have McKinney right now.
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"I don't have to hope. Ever since the first day I put on the pads, I've been a leader in some capacity. The way I work and the way I play on Sundays, guys are going to follow." - RB Ricky Williams, on whether he hopes to be a team leader.
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06-23-2008, 02:49 PM
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I agree with Bling.... It's not like the school is asking these players to split atoms or perform surgery. Let's face it, as a football/ b-ball player at a D-1 school, you show up for class, you pass. Unless things have changed since I was on campus, the school provides the resources for these players to be successful in the classroom (tutors, studyhall, numerous rescheduling of exams and due dates). At some point, these players have to be responsible for their own failures. Maybe I'm misguided here but I feel that a player that is making an honest attempt to succeed will be given every opportunity to do so. With that being said, failure in the classroom is bred from lack of effort and laziness-- and that falls 100% squarely on the shoulders of the player. It's time for the James McKinney's and DC's of the world to wake up and realize that despite all of their talent, there's a smaller, slower, and less athletic guy busting his nuts (on and off the field) and preparing to take their roster spot. Good riddance James McKinney.
P.S. You better not over salt my fries or I'm gonna have a talk with your manager!
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06-23-2008, 02:57 PM
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But when Pitino ridded himself of the DC drama (which is still to be seen, but for now that's his stance), he also ridded himself of the checking up, babysitting, and homework reviewing that he has his staff do for all those guys. If DC stopped going to class in April and May, that was his thing. Pitino - I would also bet - was no longer keeping tabs. Now if you can point to one other time a Pitino player became academically ineligible at UofL, I'll back off that belief. I think it's worth noting that DC is Pitino's ONLY academic casualty while Krag seems to be working on 15 or so now. I don't have it in front of me or more unfortunately on our website, but some of you may remember the article I did a few years back about the APR and how angry Pitino was that he got caught in a potentially bad situation of losing scholarships because of the APR rules and the way he used to recruit. If any coach was going to go to extreme measures to avoid APR issues, it's Rick. And having said that, I think Pitino definitely proves that academics are very much a coach issue. One more comment/observation on your counter-point. DC (again, unless I am shown otherwise) is the ONLY academic loss on Pitino's watch in 6+ years at UofL. McKinney is certainly not the first in just over a year for Kragthorpe. One slip-up can be forgiven, but a pattern of problems can't continue to be foo-fooed and dismissed or blamed on a guy who hasn't worked for the company in more than 12 months.
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06-24-2008, 05:11 AM
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DC now says he has righted himself and is academically eligible. So now without Pitino checking on him, maybe DC has taken advantage of the help afforded to athletes and has grinded it out in summer school? Stranger things have happened I suppose, it would be nothing short of miraclous if he did this on his own. At Manual HS my son gets an hour and a half after school study hall to do homework before football practice and the National Honor Society is available in the school library before school for tutoring (which he took advantage of) and teachers are available after school for specific tutoring in their subject (which he also took advantage of). I don't remember anything like that going on when I was in HS.
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"I don't have to hope. Ever since the first day I put on the pads, I've been a leader in some capacity. The way I work and the way I play on Sundays, guys are going to follow." - RB Ricky Williams, on whether he hopes to be a team leader. Last edited by bling49; 06-24-2008 at 05:15 AM.
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06-24-2008, 07:39 AM
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That's the problem with the USA today. To many kids get rewarded for being average. This country use to be full of men and women who put astronauts on the moon. I don't know what we're bringing up today. Pitino said something that I hardly ever hear repeated by anyone. He said that Caracter does not want to participate in the "college experience". I think that was one of the main reasons that Brohm came back. Those of you who went to college should know what Pitino is talking about. It's a one time experience that you can't do when you're 35 because hopefully by then, you've matured enough to see how stupid your classmates are. Those spring break parties, sex with anyone, anywhere, the football games, the basketball games, the sweating through wondering if you're going to pass or not. That is part of the college experience and you tend to only remember the fun parts. That is an experience that you can only go through when you're young and carefree and I am glad I got to experience it. I guess I'll add McKinney to that list of guys I'll be buying a burger from. He better not put pickles on it either.
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06-24-2008, 02:20 PM
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Could you imagine DC and McKinney working at the same burger joint?
I can see it now, you say give me a number 3 with no onions and super size it. DC with a mouthful of food and special sauce around his mouth says "It'll be a few minutes were out of burgers," McKinney standing at the fry station, french fries in both hands and dangling from his mouth, drops his fries walks over to the soda machine, fills up a cup & downs a coke then says "we have apple pies" They would both be about a super size meal from 400 pounds.
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"I don't have to hope. Ever since the first day I put on the pads, I've been a leader in some capacity. The way I work and the way I play on Sundays, guys are going to follow." - RB Ricky Williams, on whether he hopes to be a team leader.
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