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Old 01-09-2008, 12:09 AM
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The president of the University of Georgia, Michael Adams, who is also the chairman of the NCAA executive committee(whatever that is), had this to say in his demand for a football playoff...
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"...this year's experience with the BCS forces me to the conclusion that the current system has lost public confidence and simply does not work."
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"The television networks -- particularly the one that controls the majority of regular season and postseason games -- have grown powerful in deciding who plays and when they play, and, indeed, whom they hire to coach."
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"The Bowl Championship Series has become a beauty contest largely stage-managed by the networks, which in turn protect the interests of their own partner conferences."
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He said the commissioners of the conferences and the bowls are guilty of "closed-circle decision-making based on traditional contract alliances."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

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And next year when his team is 12-0, we won't hear a word about a playoff.
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And next year when his team is 12-0, we won't hear a word about a playoff.
Exactly, it matters to this guy now because Georgia was mentioned as a potential contender at the end of the year for the BCS championship, he would love to move on now and get a shot at LSU.

If he was 12-0 next year he would want to be picked in the BCS game and have it end with that game if Georgia won, no playoff.
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That may be true, but the point is he said it and it pissed the hell out of a lot of people, and will hopefully give other people the courage to do something about it.

Hopefully these guys are starting to get it that they are going to get screwed much more often than they are going to benefit from this setup.

This is the second year in a row we've heard dissent from an SEC bigwig, and the SEC won it all the past two years. What will they say when the Pac-10 or BigEast wins?
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Well if the Big East ever takes care of business and doesn't pull a Louisville v Rutgers or a WVU v Pitt, all hell would break loose from ALL THE OTHER CONFERENCES. They would hate it if one of the conference teams got in there and played someone in the title game. And if our teams actually pulled it out? There would be riots in Bristol, CT, the entire southeast, west coast, midwest, and plains. Hell, a national title by UofL or WVU might put our country back into Colonial times... only the colony states left standing.
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That may be true, but the point is he said it and it pissed the hell out of a lot of people, and will hopefully give other people the courage to do something about it.
I would agree with a playoff.

I also see where Michael Adams has a legit complaint about the BCS process and the networks role in the BCS picture being a "special interest" in seeing certain teams have an advantage and getting to the BCS game.

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"But this year's experience with the BCS forces me to the conclusion that the current system has lost public confidence and simply does not work."
So what exactly was it about Adams "experience" with the BCS system this year?

Georgia ended up a hot team at the end of the year capable of beating a lot of good teams yet shut out of the BCS title game.

Join the club, probably 4 or 5 teams per year feel that way at the end of the season.

I also believe that if his BCS experience was better and his school, the Georgia Bulldogs, were one of the two teams chosen for the BCS title game he wouldnt be so ready to entertain playoff ideas.

he makes legitimate points but his timing exposes his own "special interest"

I guess it doesnt matter as long as it happens.
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What proved to me that it didn't work this year is that people kept saying the season is the playoff, the season is the playoff. But after two losses to unranked teams, those same people kept saying LSU is still the best team even though they keep losing.
Then, when a good(not great) LSU team beats the crap out of the other so-called championship calibur team, we see that neither team really deserved to be called the national champion.
It didn't really have anything to do with Georgia for me. For him, it's probably a little different.
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Yes LSU lost twice but both were in triple overtime.

Not like a WVU losing 16-9 to a suck ass Pittsburgh knocking them from the championship game in the last week of the regular season.

I believe LSU is still a championship caliber team and correctly chosen for the BCS title game.

Ohio State is 33-3 the last 3 seasons and has played in the BCS game 3 of the last 6 seasons, they are a championship caliber team but USC could have also been in the title game and competitive.

LSU would have destroyed Kansas, WVU, VT maybe Georgia would have been the only team that could have put up a fight.

The loss to UK was a fluke and it took a triple OT game to the wire for a loss. Arkansas was a stronger team than UK in my opinion and that too also took a 3 OT game for a loss.

So my question is, if LSU shouldnt have been in the BCS title game who should have been?

Nobody WORTHY finished the season with a better record than 12-2.

Hawaii & Kansas both 12-1 would get massacared by LSU.
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Yes LSU lost twice but both were in triple overtime.

Not like a WVU losing 16-9 to a suck ass Pittsburgh knocking them from the championship game in the last week of the regular season.

I believe LSU is still a championship caliber team and correctly chosen for the BCS title game.

Ohio State is 33-3 the last 3 seasons and has played in the BCS game 3 of the last 6 seasons, they are a championship caliber team but USC could have also been in the title game and competitive.

LSU would have destroyed Kansas, WVU, VT maybe Georgia would have been the only team that could have put up a fight.

The loss to UK was a fluke and it took a triple OT game to the wire for a loss. Arkansas was a stronger team than UK in my opinion and that too also took a 3 OT game for a loss.

So my question is, if LSU shouldnt have been in the BCS title game who should have been?

Nobody WORTHY finished the season with a better record than 12-2.

Hawaii & Kansas both 12-1 would get massacared by LSU.
This post is PURE speculation. Kansas is better than OSU, imo. OSU is weak just like the rest of the big ten. VT isn't worth a shit either. I think Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, WVU, and USC would have all made a better game.
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LSU couldn't massacre anybody after the first few weeks of the season.
They beat Alabama by 7, they beat Auburn by 6, they beat Tennessee by 7(in a horrible game-looked like two mid-majors), they beat Florida by 4, they beat South Carolina by 12. Add in the loss to unranked UK, and letting Arkansas beat them with 50 points, and that's the best team in the country?

Hawaii, Kansas, and Missouri all should have got a shot before LSU. Missouri had two losses, but to only one team. Kansas had only one loss(by eight points). Hawaii had no losses.

I just don't want to hear anybody argue that the regular season is the playoff because this year crapped all over that theory. It's a pickem. The media said LSU was the best all season long, losses be damned.
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