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[bling49]

Saying LSU was barely winning games is lame.

The Patriots were blowing NFL teams out early in the year and winning by 3-points at the end, regardless they went undefeated.

The College OT system 4 downs starting at the 25-yard line as opposed to the NFL and 1st team to score wins can make an OT game anybodys game to win.

So LSU with two triple OT losses to me is better off than a lot of other two loss teams.

So what arkansas scored 50-points on LSU it was a 3 OT game that's 21-points right there.

Are you kidding me, you really think Hawaii deserved a shot at the BCS title game and would have played a better game?

Hawaii that got blown the fuck out by Georgia would have played LSU tougher than OSU?

Yeah, right?

LSU just like Georgia was playing good football at the end of the year and deserved the title shot.

OSU got handled by LSU on the offensive and defensive line so I might agree another team could have been given a shot besides OSU but I dont see Kansas or Misouri who couldnt beat Oklohoma in two tries beating LSU.

If Missouri deserves a shot then Oklohoma trumps them for beating Mizzou head -to- head twice and should get the BCS shot before them.

A playoff would end all speculation but it would still be flawed because WVU even with two losses is on the bubble and left out and they deserved to be in the title picture.

[HarveyGlass]

LSU was playing horrible football at the end of the year. They lost their last regular season game at home, then looked like a pop warner team hanging on to beat UT in the SEC title game.
You can't see Kansas or Missouri beating LSU, but we all saw UK beat LSU and we all know how good they were.

And it doesn't matter what Hawaii did in their bowl game, they were undefeated and who knows what kind of game they would have given Ohio State. Georgia was easily better than OSU, IMO.

[nmcardsfan]

yeah, i agree with you there harv..georgia would have done the same to OSU given the chance. I also think that WVU would have made bitches out of the buckeyes as well..but we all know there is only one conference that can send a two loss team to the NC game and it aint the BE...

[bling49]

No way I could pick Mizzou for the title game after losing to Oklohoma twice.

Kansas beat everyone on their schedule except Mizzou, problem is they really didnt beat anyone really good and if I wouldnt pick Mizzou for the BCS title game I certainly wouldnt pick Kansas.

Hawaii plays in the WAC which is WACK!!!

12-0 so freaking what, no competition, no BCS title game.

Georgia, maybe except why stage a game between two SEC teams for the National title?

I dont want to see that, the SEC should stage that game not the BCS unless the ended up #1 and #2 and didnt play.

LSU & Georgia didnt end up one and two so I dont want to see that......evidently neither did the BCS committee.

So what UK beat LSU, it was triple OT and UK beat #5 (Louisville) and #1 (LSU) in the same season so it's a little hard to rag on that.......ESCPECIALLY after all the upsets this year in NCAA football you going to hold a team to an upset loss (looks like the BCS comittee didnt).......EVERYONE was upset once this year at least.....the fact that LSU's was triple OT speaks volumes.

LSU was worthy of the title shot, OSU was just the luck of the draw.

[nmcardsfan]

#5 PRE season team...lol we definitely were not a top 10 or even top 50 team last year..

[bling49]

So Louisville played a preseason game?

Nope we played UK 3rd week of the season.

If the Cards beat the #1 ranked team 3rd week of the season would all Cards fans be saying, well they were just the preseason #1.

No we would be tearing down some schools goalpost 3rd week of the season for beating the #1 team.

Now I will concede to you the fact that we tanked a lot more games after that so a preseason #5 ranking was too high for how Louisville played the rest of the year but that doesnt make a difference in the polls and to the fans, they all weigh in to the fact that Louisville was the #5 ranked team in the country 3rd week of the season..

[Empire Lindy]

All that proves is how dumb polls can be. It doesn't give LSU some tertiary claim to their #1 ranking and/or an excuse for losing to a 7-5 Kentucky team. Let's keep that in mind... Kentucky went 7-5.

[bling49]

Originally Posted by Empire Lindy

All that proves is how dumb polls can be. It doesn't give LSU some tertiary claim to their #1 ranking and/or an excuse for losing to a 7-5 Kentucky team. Let's keep that in mind... Kentucky went 7-5.

......but UK was 5-1 when they played and beat LSU and I think they had cracked the top 25 then also.

What does it matter what they ended up?

It hurts their strength of schedule a bit but evidently that didnt keep them out of the title game.

UK was ranked and playing well when they knocked off the #1 team.

Little went down after that, so did the #2 RB also and WR Keenan Burton and their starting DE or was it a DT did as well.

We all know what injuries and suspensions can do to a team (ie: Stripling, Spillman, Urrutia, O-Line, Peanut, Allen, Bolen, Douglass, Willia WIlliams).

UK was playing well when they beat LSU

[HarveyGlass]

How they end up is usually pretty accurate. You're looking at an entire body of work to determine if a team was "good" or not. UK ended up proving they were a very mediocre team, capable of playing really well and capable of playing pretty bad, with no real consistency.

At the end of the day, two five-loss teams beat LSU. If you don't think that hurts their claim to being the best team in the country so be it.

[Empire Lindy]

Originally Posted by bling49

......but UK was 5-1 when they played and beat LSU and I think they had cracked the top 25 then also.

What does it matter what they ended up?

What it matters is that the 6 opponents leading up to LSU were I-AA Eastern Kentucky, 3-9 Kent State, 6-6 Louisville, 7-5 Arkansas, 7-5 FAU, and 6-6 South Carolina. Not exactly a murderer's row of opposition. Two winning teams in the whole bunch - one of the two that needed a 6-1 finish in the Sun Belt just to get to 7-5.

Originally Posted by bling

It hurts their strength of schedule a bit but evidently that didnt keep them out of the title game.

That's because metrics like the SOS and computers account for squat in the new BCS formula. The two polls, which I would hope you agree are subject to a LOT of bias, are 2/3 of the formula. If LSU is #1 in both polls, it's going to be hard for the computers to push them outside the Top 2.

Originally Posted by bling

UK was ranked and playing well when they knocked off the #1 team.

Little went down after that, so did the #2 RB also and WR Keenan Burton and their starting DE or was it a DT did as well.

We all know what injuries and suspensions can do to a team (ie: Stripling, Spillman, Urrutia, O-Line, Peanut, Allen, Bolen, Douglass, Willia WIlliams).

Again, by that logic... LSU was beat up IN THAT GAME and still almost pulled it out. Kentucky was pretty healthy if memory serves and still needed 3 OT's to knock off a team that didn't have Early Doucet, had a banged-up & terrible performance from Matt Flynn, and lost three defensive players in the second half.

Though wide receiver Early Doucet returned from a four-week absence to play the second-to-last play of the game, cornerback Chevis Jackson, safety Craig Steltz, and defensive end Kirston Pittman left the game in the second half.

I'm sure this is going to be a testament to the quality of LSU in your eyes, but let's not let injuries be an EXCUSE for UK's final record. They got by most of the season with a good offense and good TO margin. When Woodson started throwing it away, they started losing. Every team deals with injuries and UK proved it wasn't a very good team if a couple of injuries was the reason they fell from 6-1 to 7-5.