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Old 08-28-2008, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Redbird Attack View Post

I agree with Lindy that both of these guys suck and both would make horrible Presidents. I'm not voting for either one of them. I want to know WTF is up with the 2 partys giving us shit like Bush, Gore, Kerry, McCain and Obama to vote for. I wouldn't want any of those guys in the same timezone as the White House.
I don't think either one would make horrible Presidents, myself. Mainly because Obama is such an unknown and McCain has been around long enough to know the system and how it works. I also don't think McCain would be Bush 3. That's just the party line the Dems threw out very early and they are getting it to speak with some people.

IMO, we are given the candidates we get because we don't care enough to hold these guys feet to the fire in both parties. We have become so entrenched in actually disliking or even hating the other party that we buy into every ounce of hype, and half truths we are sold. Most Americans are somewhere in the middle, but the far wings of each party take the power to speak for each party and force the candidates to pander to them. McCain could not get the nomination without pandering to the religous far right that have no compromise in them. Same with Obama, only he had to say things like the "surge isn't working" "the surge won't work" "we need immediate withdrawal" " no drilling for oil" and such. That's the reason they went with Obama over Clinton. She voted for the war. One issue took her out of the top spot. WE let the far reaches on both sides get the power because we are too stubborn to look at voting for the other party. We are not enemies. We are all Americans and I feel like I shouldn't have to resign myself to voting for one party and one party only.

I am not much into political hate speech. That's a problem too. And it's not just the candidates. I've witnessed it on here and other forums. If someone doesn't agree, simply call them names or ridicule their beliefs. Where is the room for debate? Why can't we discuss something without having insults tossed around? Are we scared we may learn something? Are we scared if we challenge our own beliefs, or have them challenged we may actually come up with a new line of thinking? Freddy
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